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Meet Naomi & Brad

Two people from different generations, careers, and life experiences — who kept finding themselves looking at the same situation from completely different angles.

Naomi, co-host of AND/OR Podcast

Naomi

Co-Host

HR & Talent Development

The person who asks the question everyone else is afraid to ask.

Naomi has spent her career at the intersection of people and organizations — helping leaders understand that the hardest problems in business are almost always human problems in disguise.

With a background in human resources and talent leadership, she brings a people-first lens to every conversation. She challenges assumptions about how we grow, lead, and relate to one another.

Naomi is the voice on and/or that names what's in the room. She asks the questions most people feel but don't say — and she does it with warmth, curiosity, and zero judgment.

She believes the most important conversations are the ones we keep putting off. and/or is her way of making sure they finally happen.

People-First Thinking

Naomi approaches every topic through the lens of human behavior, motivation, and connection.

HR & Talent Leadership

Her experience helps organizations attract, develop, and retain the people who drive them forward.

The Uncomfortable Question

She has a gift for naming what's in the room that nobody else will say — and doing it with warmth.

Executive Leadership & Business

The person who tells you what he actually thinks — even when it's uncomfortable.

Brad has spent decades leading organizations, building teams, and making the kinds of decisions that keep you up at night. He knows what it looks like when strategy meets reality — and what gets lost in translation.

With a background in executive leadership and operations, he brings a results-oriented perspective that balances big-picture thinking with the messy, human reality of leading people.

Brad is the voice on and/or that pushes back. He asks "but what does that actually mean in practice?" — and he's not satisfied until the answer is honest.

He believes that most leadership failures aren't strategy failures. They're perspective failures. and/or is his way of fixing that.

Executive Perspective

Brad brings the view from the top of the org chart — the decisions, trade-offs, and pressures that come with it.

Operational Clarity

A results-oriented thinker who cuts through complexity to find what actually matters in any situation.

Honest Disagreement

Brad isn't afraid to push back — and that tension is exactly what makes the conversations worth having.

Brad, co-host of AND/OR Podcast

Brad

Co-Host

Together

Different Views. Better Moves.

Naomi and Brad, co-hosts of and/or Podcast

Naomi and Brad don't always agree. That's the whole point.

Through their conversations, they discovered that some of life's best decisions happen when we stop asking who is right and start exploring what we may be missing. and/or is that exploration — out loud, every week.